my colleague just wrote a book on hillary clinton. i asked him if she is running and what his take was. he said the question is not whether she is running. the question is whether she will stop running. [laughter] she is essentially running for president now. that gets into the big challenge for her, which is what dog her in 2008. she does best when she is the underdog. if she has the front runner status and is walking into it like it is a coronation, that could hurt her. i think it will be interesting to see what issues she grabs onto and tries to frame to try to capture the underdog status. last week she was at a speaking engagement. she said something along the lines of don't discount older women, we are not senile. i think that is one way she could be trying to find that kind of issue. laro was just talking about the demographic challenges for older , that would be a way for democrats to be able to grab onto that demographic group. asked -- >> is there anyone that could be her? >> in a primary, i think the answer is no. i would no